URL:

https://sallybarmescounsellor.co.uk/pad4.pdf

Full analysis: https://app.any.run/tasks/f18b39a3-127f-41c1-a493-34cd475835ca
Verdict: Malicious activity
Threats:

Tycoon 2FA is a phishing-as-a-service (PhaaS) platform designed to bypass multi-factor authentication (MFA) protections, particularly targeting Microsoft 365 and Gmail accounts. Its advanced evasion techniques and modular architecture make it a significant threat to organizations relying on MFA for security.

Analysis date: March 24, 2025, 22:01:36
OS: Windows 10 Professional (build: 19045, 64 bit)
Tags:
phishing
phishing-ml
tycoon
phishing
Indicators:
MD5:

072D314D0D67FE3C234E59632FCFF087

SHA1:

8D75FD1B2BD39AFEB1C88678AECEA93F30FB0DD2

SHA256:

93BD036FDF2769864FB2D498C4C630A649D0F744B2F39EA153A0DC022861DEE8

SSDEEP:

3:N8JHcHwWGLLHq0ETn:2y8K0M

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  • MALICIOUS

    • PHISHING has been detected (SURICATA)

      • msedge.exe (PID: 7384)
  • SUSPICIOUS

    No suspicious indicators.
  • INFO

    • Checks supported languages

      • identity_helper.exe (PID: 7720)
    • Reads Environment values

      • identity_helper.exe (PID: 7720)
    • Reads the computer name

      • identity_helper.exe (PID: 7720)
    • Application launched itself

      • msedge.exe (PID: 6964)
Find more information about signature artifacts and mapping to MITRE ATT&CK™ MATRIX at the full report
No Malware configuration.
No data.
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Total processes
169
Monitored processes
36
Malicious processes
2
Suspicious processes
0

Behavior graph

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start msedge.exe msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs #PHISHING msedge.exe msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs sppextcomobj.exe no specs slui.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs identity_helper.exe no specs identity_helper.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs

Process information

PID
CMD
Path
Indicators
Parent process
1628"C:\WINDOWS\System32\SLUI.exe" RuleId=3482d82e-ca2c-4e1f-8864-da0267b484b2;Action=AutoActivate;AppId=55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f;SkuId=4de7cb65-cdf1-4de9-8ae8-e3cce27b9f2c;NotificationInterval=1440;Trigger=TimerEventC:\Windows\System32\slui.exeSppExtComObj.Exe
User:
NETWORK SERVICE
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
SYSTEM
Description:
Windows Activation Client
Version:
10.0.19041.1 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Modules
Images
c:\windows\system32\slui.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
c:\windows\system32\user32.dll
1660"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=entity_extraction_service.mojom.Extractor --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=entity_extraction --onnx-enabled-for-ee --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=5832 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
3884"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=6412 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
4040"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=4336 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
5164"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=asset_store.mojom.AssetStoreService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=asset_store_service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=5852 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
6192"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=6724 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
6240C:\WINDOWS\system32\SppExtComObj.exe -EmbeddingC:\Windows\System32\SppExtComObj.Exesvchost.exe
User:
NETWORK SERVICE
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
SYSTEM
Description:
KMS Connection Broker
Version:
10.0.19041.3996 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Modules
Images
c:\windows\system32\sppextcomobj.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
6516"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=5264 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
6516"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=6244 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
6564"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=6660 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,15490887548675654886,4253602145732841121,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
Total events
4 654
Read events
4 615
Write events
21
Delete events
18

Modification events

(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\BLBeacon
Operation:writeName:failed_count
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\BLBeacon
Operation:writeName:state
Value:
2
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\BLBeacon
Operation:writeName:state
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\StabilityMetrics
Operation:writeName:user_experience_metrics.stability.exited_cleanly
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate\ClientStateMedium\{56EB18F8-B008-4CBD-B6D2-8C97FE7E9062}\LastWasDefault
Operation:writeName:S-1-5-21-1693682860-607145093-2874071422-1001
Value:
A83F4708B48F2F00
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate\ClientStateMedium\{56EB18F8-B008-4CBD-B6D2-8C97FE7E9062}\LastWasDefault
Operation:writeName:S-1-5-21-1693682860-607145093-2874071422-1001
Value:
F95B4F08B48F2F00
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\262918
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{C8D1ADB1-1688-453F-BF3E-C8E0FEB012BF}
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\262918
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{2AC388FF-9729-4356-B1FF-49ACCAABBF02}
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\262918
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{5E676C2C-4EF3-457F-8756-A90D59A8CEDF}
(PID) Process:(6964) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\262918
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{0E0CD17B-E72E-41D1-BBD6-E8EF380ECF07}
Executable files
6
Suspicious files
91
Text files
39
Unknown types
0

Dropped files

PID
Process
Filename
Type
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\parcel_tracking_db\LOG.old~RF10b538.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\PersistentOriginTrials\LOG.old~RF10b558.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\commerce_subscription_db\LOG.old~RF10b567.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\parcel_tracking_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\PersistentOriginTrials\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\EdgePushStorageWithConnectTokenAndKey\LOG.old~RF10b577.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\EdgePushStorageWithConnectTokenAndKey\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\commerce_subscription_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\discounts_db\LOG.old~RF10b567.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
6964msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\discounts_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
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HTTP(S) requests
5
TCP/UDP connections
70
DNS requests
78
Threats
20

HTTP requests

PID
Process
Method
HTTP Code
IP
URL
CN
Type
Size
Reputation
5496
MoUsoCoreWorker.exe
GET
200
23.48.23.137:80
http://crl.microsoft.com/pki/crl/products/MicRooCerAut2011_2011_03_22.crl
unknown
whitelisted
6544
svchost.exe
GET
200
184.30.131.245:80
http://ocsp.digicert.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBSAUQYBMq2awn1Rh6Doh%2FsBYgFV7gQUA95QNVbRTLtm8KPiGxvDl7I90VUCEAJ0LqoXyo4hxxe7H%2Fz9DKA%3D
unknown
whitelisted
8684
SIHClient.exe
GET
200
95.101.149.131:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/Microsoft%20ECC%20Update%20Secure%20Server%20CA%202.1.crl
unknown
whitelisted
8684
SIHClient.exe
GET
200
95.101.149.131:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/Microsoft%20ECC%20Product%20Root%20Certificate%20Authority%202018.crl
unknown
whitelisted
1072
backgroundTaskHost.exe
GET
200
184.30.131.245:80
http://ocsp.digicert.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBQ50otx%2Fh0Ztl%2Bz8SiPI7wEWVxDlQQUTiJUIBiV5uNu5g%2F6%2BrkS7QYXjzkCEAUZZSZEml49Gjh0j13P68w%3D
unknown
whitelisted
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Connections

PID
Process
IP
Domain
ASN
CN
Reputation
2104
svchost.exe
20.73.194.208:443
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
NL
whitelisted
4
System
192.168.100.255:137
whitelisted
20.73.194.208:443
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
NL
whitelisted
5496
MoUsoCoreWorker.exe
23.48.23.137:80
crl.microsoft.com
Akamai International B.V.
DE
whitelisted
4
System
192.168.100.255:138
whitelisted
7384
msedge.exe
104.21.16.1:443
uz5k.vsmaemhjvk.ru
unknown
7384
msedge.exe
13.107.42.16:443
config.edge.skype.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
US
whitelisted
6964
msedge.exe
239.255.255.250:1900
whitelisted
7384
msedge.exe
13.107.21.239:443
edge.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
US
whitelisted
7384
msedge.exe
13.107.246.60:443
edge-mobile-static.azureedge.net
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
US
whitelisted

DNS requests

Domain
IP
Reputation
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
  • 20.73.194.208
  • 40.127.240.158
whitelisted
google.com
  • 172.217.16.206
whitelisted
crl.microsoft.com
  • 23.48.23.137
  • 23.48.23.183
  • 23.48.23.176
  • 23.48.23.159
  • 23.48.23.158
  • 23.48.23.162
  • 23.48.23.166
  • 23.48.23.177
  • 23.48.23.150
whitelisted
config.edge.skype.com
  • 13.107.42.16
whitelisted
edge.microsoft.com
  • 13.107.21.239
  • 204.79.197.239
whitelisted
edge-mobile-static.azureedge.net
  • 13.107.246.60
whitelisted
sallybarmescounsellor.co.uk
  • 185.199.220.71
unknown
business.bing.com
  • 13.107.6.158
whitelisted
bzib.nelreports.net
  • 23.50.131.74
  • 23.50.131.78
whitelisted
uz5k.vsmaemhjvk.ru
  • 104.21.16.1
  • 104.21.80.1
  • 104.21.112.1
  • 104.21.96.1
  • 104.21.48.1
  • 104.21.32.1
  • 104.21.64.1
unknown

Threats

PID
Process
Class
Message
7384
msedge.exe
Possible Social Engineering Attempted
PHISHING [ANY.RUN] Suspected Phishing Domain (vsmaemhjvk .ru)
7384
msedge.exe
Possible Social Engineering Attempted
PHISHING [ANY.RUN] Suspected Phishing Domain (vsmaemhjvk .ru)
7384
msedge.exe
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] jQuery JavaScript Library Code Loaded (code .jquery .com)
7384
msedge.exe
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] jQuery JavaScript Library Code Loaded (code .jquery .com)
7384
msedge.exe
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] jQuery JavaScript Library Code Loaded (code .jquery .com)
7384
msedge.exe
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] jQuery JavaScript Library Code Loaded (code .jquery .com)
7384
msedge.exe
Possible Social Engineering Attempted
PHISHING [ANY.RUN] Suspected Phishing Domain (hxnywi .ru)
7384
msedge.exe
Possible Social Engineering Attempted
PHISHING [ANY.RUN] Suspected Phishing Domain (hxnywi .ru)
7384
msedge.exe
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Cloudflare content delivery network (cdnjs .cloudflare .com)
7384
msedge.exe
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Cloudflare content delivery network (cdnjs .cloudflare .com)
No debug info