URL:

http://jali.me/hgf4r

Full analysis: https://app.any.run/tasks/c6bdc378-a2cb-4450-9ba2-11ab8eccc0ec
Verdict: Malicious activity
Threats:

Mamba 2FA is an advanced phishing-as-a-service (PhaaS) platform designed to bypass multi-factor authentication (MFA) and target Microsoft 365 accounts. It focuses on intercepting authentication flows in real-time and enables threat actors to hijack user sessions and access sensitive systems even when additional security measures are in place.

Analysis date: May 13, 2025, 09:09:25
OS: Windows 10 Professional (build: 19044, 64 bit)
Tags:
phishing
mamba
43
obfuscated-js
42
Indicators:
MD5:

AAAD81A1C75DF0B1627B28F0242EF8F5

SHA1:

BFF0CB426AD7E828AEF0B74D33A3B19288CA7E7A

SHA256:

38A3068EE78AAE4A48E04B40B8C360968B96EEEFE168BA98D50799B42F4923D6

SSDEEP:

3:N1KUTKQNX:CUDX

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  • MALICIOUS

    • PHISHING has been detected (SURICATA)

      • msedge.exe (PID: 7312)
  • SUSPICIOUS

    No suspicious indicators.
  • INFO

    • Checks supported languages

      • identity_helper.exe (PID: 8144)
    • Reads Environment values

      • identity_helper.exe (PID: 8144)
    • Application launched itself

      • msedge.exe (PID: 5960)
    • Reads the computer name

      • identity_helper.exe (PID: 8144)
Find more information about signature artifacts and mapping to MITRE ATT&CK™ MATRIX at the full report
No Malware configuration.
No data.
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Total processes
172
Monitored processes
42
Malicious processes
1
Suspicious processes
1

Behavior graph

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start msedge.exe msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs #PHISHING msedge.exe msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs sppextcomobj.exe no specs slui.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs identity_helper.exe no specs identity_helper.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs msedge.exe no specs

Process information

PID
CMD
Path
Indicators
Parent process
536"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=5604 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
736"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=chrome.mojom.UtilWin --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=none --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=4412 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
2600"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=6748 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
2616"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=unzip.mojom.Unzipper --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=7520 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
3304"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=5436 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
3768"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=crashpad-handler "--user-data-dir=C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data" /prefetch:4 --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler "--database=C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Crashpad" --annotation=IsOfficialBuild=1 --annotation=channel= --annotation=chromium-version=122.0.6261.70 "--annotation=exe=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --annotation=plat=Win64 "--annotation=prod=Microsoft Edge" --annotation=ver=122.0.2365.59 --initial-client-data=0x30c,0x310,0x314,0x308,0x260,0x7ffc886b5fd8,0x7ffc886b5fe4,0x7ffc886b5ff0C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
4200"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\122.0.2365.59\identity_helper.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=winrt_app_id.mojom.WinrtAppIdService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=none --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=6864 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\122.0.2365.59\identity_helper.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
PWA Identity Proxy Host
Exit code:
3221226029
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\identity_helper.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
4424"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=7420 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
5244"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=renderer --no-appcompat-clear --disable-gpu-compositing --lang=en-US --js-flags=--ms-user-locale= --device-scale-factor=1 --num-raster-threads=2 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=21 --mojo-platform-channel-handle=4616 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:1C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
5344"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=data_decoder.mojom.DataDecoderService --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --no-appcompat-clear --mojo-platform-channel-handle=7120 --field-trial-handle=2344,i,9194184712245960274,9218940428069282757,262144 --variations-seed-version /prefetch:8C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exemsedge.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Microsoft Edge
Exit code:
0
Version:
122.0.2365.59
Modules
Images
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\122.0.2365.59\msedge_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\combase.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
Total events
4 914
Read events
4 865
Write events
31
Delete events
18

Modification events

(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\BLBeacon
Operation:writeName:failed_count
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\BLBeacon
Operation:writeName:state
Value:
2
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\BLBeacon
Operation:writeName:state
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Edge\StabilityMetrics
Operation:writeName:user_experience_metrics.stability.exited_cleanly
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate\ClientStateMedium\{56EB18F8-B008-4CBD-B6D2-8C97FE7E9062}\LastWasDefault
Operation:writeName:S-1-5-21-1693682860-607145093-2874071422-1001
Value:
3D23D41297932F00
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate\ClientStateMedium\{56EB18F8-B008-4CBD-B6D2-8C97FE7E9062}\LastWasDefault
Operation:writeName:S-1-5-21-1693682860-607145093-2874071422-1001
Value:
3A7FDC1297932F00
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\197224
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{127351C0-E2D8-4415-947A-FEB9F7C8AF6F}
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\197224
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{C82AC411-7677-4E05-9975-6826EE6F64B0}
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\197224
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{6E75FE71-59BE-46E9-BD48-7217F5C50CC3}
(PID) Process:(5960) msedge.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowProperties\197224
Operation:writeName:WindowTabManagerFileMappingId
Value:
{9CE7DEC4-7DA3-44FB-A707-EFF59BBEDFBF}
Executable files
11
Suspicious files
250
Text files
39
Unknown types
0

Dropped files

PID
Process
Filename
Type
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\discounts_db\LOG.old~RF10b78a.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\commerce_subscription_db\LOG.old~RF10b78a.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\parcel_tracking_db\LOG.old~RF10b78a.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\discounts_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\commerce_subscription_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\parcel_tracking_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\EdgePushStorageWithConnectTokenAndKey\LOG.old~RF10b79a.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\EdgePushStorageWithConnectTokenAndKey\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\PersistentOriginTrials\LOG.old~RF10b7a9.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
5960msedge.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\PersistentOriginTrials\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
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HTTP(S) requests
5
TCP/UDP connections
145
DNS requests
134
Threats
24

HTTP requests

PID
Process
Method
HTTP Code
IP
URL
CN
Type
Size
Reputation
GET
200
23.35.229.160:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/MicSecSerCA2011_2011-10-18.crl
unknown
whitelisted
GET
200
23.216.77.25:80
http://crl.microsoft.com/pki/crl/products/MicRooCerAut2011_2011_03_22.crl
unknown
whitelisted
6544
svchost.exe
GET
200
2.17.190.73:80
http://ocsp.digicert.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBSAUQYBMq2awn1Rh6Doh%2FsBYgFV7gQUA95QNVbRTLtm8KPiGxvDl7I90VUCEAJ0LqoXyo4hxxe7H%2Fz9DKA%3D
unknown
whitelisted
7704
SIHClient.exe
GET
200
23.35.229.160:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/Microsoft%20ECC%20Product%20Root%20Certificate%20Authority%202018.crl
unknown
whitelisted
7704
SIHClient.exe
GET
200
23.35.229.160:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/Microsoft%20ECC%20Update%20Secure%20Server%20CA%202.1.crl
unknown
whitelisted
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Connections

PID
Process
IP
Domain
ASN
CN
Reputation
4
System
192.168.100.255:137
whitelisted
40.127.240.158:443
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
IE
unknown
23.216.77.25:80
crl.microsoft.com
Akamai International B.V.
DE
whitelisted
23.35.229.160:80
www.microsoft.com
AKAMAI-AS
DE
whitelisted
2104
svchost.exe
40.127.240.158:443
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
IE
unknown
4
System
192.168.100.255:138
whitelisted
5960
msedge.exe
239.255.255.250:1900
whitelisted
7312
msedge.exe
13.107.42.16:443
config.edge.skype.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
US
whitelisted
7312
msedge.exe
150.171.30.11:443
edge.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
US
whitelisted
7312
msedge.exe
13.107.253.45:443
edge-mobile-static.azureedge.net
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
US
whitelisted

DNS requests

Domain
IP
Reputation
crl.microsoft.com
  • 23.216.77.25
  • 23.216.77.22
  • 23.216.77.31
  • 23.216.77.35
  • 23.216.77.21
  • 23.216.77.37
  • 23.216.77.28
  • 23.216.77.29
  • 23.216.77.39
whitelisted
www.microsoft.com
  • 23.35.229.160
whitelisted
google.com
  • 142.250.185.142
whitelisted
config.edge.skype.com
  • 13.107.42.16
whitelisted
jali.me
  • 104.26.11.249
  • 104.26.10.249
  • 172.67.71.48
unknown
edge.microsoft.com
  • 150.171.30.11
  • 150.171.29.11
whitelisted
edge-mobile-static.azureedge.net
  • 13.107.253.45
whitelisted
business.bing.com
  • 13.107.6.158
whitelisted
www.bing.com
  • 92.123.104.66
  • 92.123.104.58
  • 92.123.104.59
  • 92.123.104.38
  • 92.123.104.49
  • 92.123.104.62
  • 92.123.104.67
  • 92.123.104.61
  • 92.123.104.52
whitelisted
cdn.jali.me
  • 104.26.10.249
  • 104.26.11.249
  • 172.67.71.48
unknown

Threats

PID
Process
Class
Message
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Google Tag Manager analytics (googletagmanager .com)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Google Tag Manager analytics (googletagmanager .com)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Google Tag Manager analytics (googletagmanager .com)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Google Tag Manager analytics (googletagmanager .com)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Web apps custom Builder (.my .id)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Cloudflare Network Error Logging (NEL)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Cloudflare Network Error Logging (NEL)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Web apps custom Builder (.my .id)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Cloudflare content delivery network (cdnjs .cloudflare .com)
Not Suspicious Traffic
INFO [ANY.RUN] Request to Azure content delivery network (aadcdn .msauth .net)
No debug info