URL:

https://link-center.net/886759/cypher-rat-v3-and-v5

Full analysis: https://app.any.run/tasks/5ae843fd-106b-48b1-b3d8-bc69a609f75a
Verdict: Malicious activity
Analysis date: September 19, 2023, 20:45:54
OS: Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 (build: 7601, 32 bit)
Indicators:
MD5:

66655BCAA33E30FFABF88DE4F39CD89D

SHA1:

C38B032014A7BFB9AB44BCB051F327DC39AC9EC1

SHA256:

D5443B0558B206669C05734311007F0969BEAEEB8BE188830FB999320B2AA4DD

SSDEEP:

3:N8MLnMLLwKNbVrcn:2M2L5zc

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  • MALICIOUS

    No malicious indicators.
  • SUSPICIOUS

    No suspicious indicators.
  • INFO

    • Application launched itself

      • iexplore.exe (PID: 3276)
      • chrome.exe (PID: 1164)
    • The process uses the downloaded file

      • chrome.exe (PID: 2368)
      • chrome.exe (PID: 2680)
      • chrome.exe (PID: 3196)
    • Manual execution by a user

      • chrome.exe (PID: 1164)
Find more information about signature artifacts and mapping to MITRE ATT&CK™ MATRIX at the full report
No Malware configuration.
No data.
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Total processes
61
Monitored processes
26
Malicious processes
0
Suspicious processes
0

Behavior graph

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start iexplore.exe iexplore.exe chrome.exe chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs chrome.exe no specs

Process information

PID
CMD
Path
Indicators
Parent process
276"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=renderer --disable-gpu-compositing --lang=en-US --device-scale-factor=1 --num-raster-threads=2 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=23 --mojo-platform-channel-handle=4172 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:1C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
692"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=renderer --lang=en-US --device-scale-factor=1 --num-raster-threads=2 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=5 --mojo-platform-channel-handle=2140 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:1C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
1048"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=unzip.mojom.Unzipper --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --mojo-platform-channel-handle=4084 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:8C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
1164"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
explorer.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
1208"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=chrome.mojom.UtilWin --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=none --mojo-platform-channel-handle=3864 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:8C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
1704"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=renderer --disable-gpu-compositing --lang=en-US --device-scale-factor=1 --num-raster-threads=2 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=8 --mojo-platform-channel-handle=1328 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:1C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
1924"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=renderer --first-renderer-process --lang=en-US --device-scale-factor=1 --num-raster-threads=2 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=6 --mojo-platform-channel-handle=2120 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:1C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
2160"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=utility --utility-sub-type=unzip.mojom.Unzipper --lang=en-US --service-sandbox-type=service --mojo-platform-channel-handle=1560 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:8C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\cryptbase.dll
2200"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=crashpad-handler "--user-data-dir=C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data" /prefetch:7 --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler "--database=C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Crashpad" --url=https://clients2.google.com/cr/report --annotation=channel= --annotation=plat=Win32 --annotation=prod=Chrome --annotation=ver=109.0.5414.120 --initial-client-data=0xc8,0xcc,0xd0,0x9c,0xd4,0x6efa8b38,0x6efa8b48,0x6efa8b54C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
2272"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --type=renderer --disable-gpu-compositing --lang=en-US --device-scale-factor=1 --num-raster-threads=2 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=18 --mojo-platform-channel-handle=4048 --field-trial-handle=1168,i,10572589421257507146,18230934569327721614,131072 /prefetch:1C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exechrome.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Google LLC
Integrity Level:
LOW
Description:
Google Chrome
Exit code:
0
Version:
109.0.5414.120
Modules
Images
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\chrome.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\program files\google\chrome\application\109.0.5414.120\chrome_elf.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
Total events
13 505
Read events
13 356
Write events
148
Delete events
1

Modification events

(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TabbedBrowsing
Operation:writeName:NTPDaysSinceLastAutoMigration
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TabbedBrowsing
Operation:writeName:NTPLastLaunchHighDateTime
Value:
30847387
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\UrlBlockManager
Operation:writeName:NextCheckForUpdateHighDateTime
Value:
30847437
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Cookies
Operation:writeName:CachePrefix
Value:
Cookie:
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\History
Operation:writeName:CachePrefix
Value:
Visited:
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
Operation:writeName:CompatibilityFlags
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap
Operation:writeName:ProxyBypass
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap
Operation:writeName:IntranetName
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap
Operation:writeName:UNCAsIntranet
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(3276) iexplore.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap
Operation:writeName:AutoDetect
Value:
0
Executable files
3
Suspicious files
149
Text files
96
Unknown types
0

Dropped files

PID
Process
Filename
Type
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\commerce_subscription_db\LOG.old~RFfaec5.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\commerce_subscription_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Crashpad\settings.datbinary
MD5:9C016064A1F864C8140915D77CF3389A
SHA256:0E7265D4A8C16223538EDD8CD620B8820611C74538E420A88E333BE7F62AC787
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Local Storage\leveldb\LOG.old~RFfafaf.TMPtext
MD5:561161B0FF5BCA89BF47F8AC972A7499
SHA256:ECCA5CCFA0BEED7581B39FCE03D0FD3B694DF0F92BFFF780F702118AD51FC17D
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Local Storage\leveldb\LOG.oldtext
MD5:B806171F9E7C87423595645872D869B0
SHA256:851A8D533BEBF6A69C5518375396E97463302C1E2031D04F8EB5851C5C82CEB9
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Variationsbinary
MD5:961E3604F228B0D10541EBF921500C86
SHA256:F7B24F2EB3D5EB0550527490395D2F61C3D2FE74BB9CB345197DAD81B58B5FED
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\coupon_db\LOG.old~RFfb56c.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\coupon_db\LOG.old
MD5:
SHA256:
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\3c787759-3617-4bd0-a23b-8b27205936d5.tmpbinary
MD5:5058F1AF8388633F609CADB75A75DC9D
SHA256:
1164chrome.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\optimization_guide_hint_cache_store\LOG.old~RFfc22e.TMP
MD5:
SHA256:
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HTTP(S) requests
15
TCP/UDP connections
145
DNS requests
126
Threats
4

HTTP requests

PID
Process
Method
HTTP Code
IP
URL
CN
Type
Size
Reputation
868
svchost.exe
HEAD
200
34.104.35.123:80
http://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome_component/j2hxfei2occ5siitujtlwgp6xi_3/ojhpjlocmbogdgmfpkhlaaeamibhnphh_3_all_gplutbkdljxxbjolk3siq7kive.crx3
unknown
unknown
868
svchost.exe
GET
34.104.35.123:80
http://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome_component/j2hxfei2occ5siitujtlwgp6xi_3/ojhpjlocmbogdgmfpkhlaaeamibhnphh_3_all_gplutbkdljxxbjolk3siq7kive.crx3
unknown
unknown
3276
iexplore.exe
GET
200
95.140.236.128:80
http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/disallowedcertstl.cab?5c72d68daa54ff29
unknown
compressed
4.66 Kb
unknown
868
svchost.exe
GET
206
34.104.35.123:80
http://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome_component/j2hxfei2occ5siitujtlwgp6xi_3/ojhpjlocmbogdgmfpkhlaaeamibhnphh_3_all_gplutbkdljxxbjolk3siq7kive.crx3
unknown
binary
5.98 Kb
unknown
3276
iexplore.exe
GET
200
192.229.221.95:80
http://ocsp.digicert.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBQ50otx%2Fh0Ztl%2Bz8SiPI7wEWVxDlQQUTiJUIBiV5uNu5g%2F6%2BrkS7QYXjzkCEA177el9ggmWelJjG4vdGL0%3D
unknown
der
471 b
unknown
3276
iexplore.exe
GET
200
192.229.221.95:80
http://ocsp.digicert.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBQ50otx%2Fh0Ztl%2Bz8SiPI7wEWVxDlQQUTiJUIBiV5uNu5g%2F6%2BrkS7QYXjzkCEALnkXH7gCHpP%2BLZg4NMUMA%3D
unknown
der
471 b
unknown
3276
iexplore.exe
GET
200
192.229.221.95:80
http://crl3.digicert.com/Omniroot2025.crl
unknown
der
7.78 Kb
unknown
3276
iexplore.exe
GET
200
95.140.236.128:80
http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/disallowedcertstl.cab?09b4dd433482c0dd
unknown
compressed
4.66 Kb
unknown
868
svchost.exe
GET
206
34.104.35.123:80
http://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome_component/j2hxfei2occ5siitujtlwgp6xi_3/ojhpjlocmbogdgmfpkhlaaeamibhnphh_3_all_gplutbkdljxxbjolk3siq7kive.crx3
unknown
binary
9.35 Kb
unknown
868
svchost.exe
GET
206
34.104.35.123:80
http://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome_component/j2hxfei2occ5siitujtlwgp6xi_3/ojhpjlocmbogdgmfpkhlaaeamibhnphh_3_all_gplutbkdljxxbjolk3siq7kive.crx3
unknown
binary
9.00 Kb
unknown
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Connections

PID
Process
IP
Domain
ASN
CN
Reputation
4
System
192.168.100.255:137
whitelisted
3216
iexplore.exe
104.21.34.243:443
link-center.net
CLOUDFLARENET
unknown
3284
svchost.exe
239.255.255.250:1900
whitelisted
3276
iexplore.exe
92.123.104.31:443
www.bing.com
Akamai International B.V.
DE
unknown
3324
chrome.exe
142.251.140.3:443
clientservices.googleapis.com
GOOGLE
US
unknown
3324
chrome.exe
172.217.20.77:443
accounts.google.com
GOOGLE
US
whitelisted
1164
chrome.exe
239.255.255.250:1900
whitelisted
3324
chrome.exe
216.58.212.4:443
www.google.com
GOOGLE
US
whitelisted
4
System
192.168.100.255:138
whitelisted
3324
chrome.exe
142.250.74.195:443
update.googleapis.com
GOOGLE
US
whitelisted

DNS requests

Domain
IP
Reputation
api.bing.com
  • 13.107.5.80
whitelisted
www.bing.com
  • 92.123.104.31
  • 92.123.104.38
  • 92.123.104.32
  • 92.123.104.60
  • 92.123.104.59
  • 92.123.104.28
whitelisted
clientservices.googleapis.com
  • 142.251.140.3
whitelisted
accounts.google.com
  • 172.217.20.77
shared
www.google.com
  • 216.58.212.4
whitelisted
update.googleapis.com
  • 142.250.74.195
whitelisted
link-center.net
  • 172.67.210.26
  • 104.21.34.243
unknown
dns.msftncsi.com
  • 131.107.255.255
shared
optimizationguide-pa.googleapis.com
  • 172.217.17.138
  • 172.217.17.106
  • 142.250.187.170
  • 142.250.187.138
  • 142.250.187.106
  • 142.250.184.138
  • 172.217.169.170
  • 172.217.169.106
  • 142.251.141.42
  • 142.251.140.74
  • 142.251.140.42
  • 142.251.140.10
  • 216.58.213.106
  • 216.58.212.42
  • 216.58.212.10
  • 172.217.20.74
whitelisted
r20swj13mr.microsoft.com
  • 152.199.19.161
whitelisted

Threats

PID
Process
Class
Message
3324
chrome.exe
Misc activity
ET INFO External IP Lookup Domain (ipify .org) in DNS Lookup
3324
chrome.exe
Misc activity
ET INFO External IP Lookup Domain (ipify .org) in DNS Lookup
3324
chrome.exe
Misc activity
ET INFO External IP Address Lookup Domain (ipify .org) in TLS SNI
3324
chrome.exe
Misc activity
ET INFO Observed ZeroSSL SSL/TLS Certificate
No debug info