File name:

rufus-4.8.exe

Full analysis: https://app.any.run/tasks/15fbadf4-5b7b-43fe-a212-248ef3197e8c
Verdict: Malicious activity
Analysis date: June 15, 2025, 06:35:26
OS: Windows 10 Professional (build: 19044, 64 bit)
Tags:
upx
Indicators:
MIME: application/vnd.microsoft.portable-executable
File info: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows, 3 sections
MD5:

96E7D9ACFF29770E15C8C2FA0BC92C5A

SHA1:

51AFED81E9BD03F2DAEF4993DF94308615598B1E

SHA256:

092B1C10C0240E4AE16F30989C3F06A8E784067A944E4AA3E8A11A75F803D71B

SSDEEP:

98304:xGk1sDbzAkDIm/FJw0CX7G0yxyRAGkuRfj/Oc0r01rFiyWy4pu1o33yltYTBdSgD:Urtb/219C

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  • MALICIOUS

    • Changes the Windows auto-update feature

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
  • SUSPICIOUS

    • Executes as Windows Service

      • vds.exe (PID: 984)
    • Creates file in the systems drive root

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • Reads security settings of Internet Explorer

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • The process executes via Task Scheduler

      • default-browser-agent.exe (PID: 2764)
    • Loads DLL from Mozilla Firefox

      • default-browser-agent.exe (PID: 2764)
  • INFO

    • Checks supported languages

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
      • default-browser-agent.exe (PID: 2764)
    • Reads the computer name

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • Reads the machine GUID from the registry

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • Create files in a temporary directory

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • Process checks whether UAC notifications are on

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • UPX packer has been detected

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • Application launched itself

      • firefox.exe (PID: 6160)
    • Checks proxy server information

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
      • slui.exe (PID: 4580)
    • Creates files or folders in the user directory

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
    • Reads the software policy settings

      • rufus-4.8.exe (PID: 3388)
      • slui.exe (PID: 4580)
Find more information about signature artifacts and mapping to MITRE ATT&CK™ MATRIX at the full report
No Malware configuration.

TRiD

.exe | UPX compressed Win32 Executable (87.1)
.exe | Generic Win/DOS Executable (6.4)
.exe | DOS Executable Generic (6.4)

EXIF

EXE

MachineType: AMD AMD64
TimeStamp: 2073:05:01 17:13:54+00:00
ImageFileCharacteristics: Executable, Large address aware
PEType: PE32+
LinkerVersion: 14.43
CodeSize: 2048000
InitializedDataSize: 45056
UninitializedDataSize: 4251648
EntryPoint: 0x602170
OSVersion: 6
ImageVersion: -
SubsystemVersion: 6
Subsystem: Windows GUI
FileVersionNumber: 4.8.2253.0
ProductVersionNumber: 4.8.2253.0
FileFlagsMask: 0x003f
FileFlags: (none)
FileOS: Windows NT 32-bit
ObjectFileType: Executable application
FileSubtype: -
LanguageCode: Neutral
CharacterSet: Unicode
Comments: https://rufus.ie
CompanyName: Akeo Consulting
FileDescription: Rufus
FileVersion: 4.8.2253
InternalName: Rufus
LegalCopyright: © 2011-2025 Pete Batard (GPL v3)
LegalTrademarks: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html
OriginalFileName: rufus-4.8.exe
ProductName: Rufus
ProductVersion: 4.8.2253
No data.
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Total processes
156
Monitored processes
8
Malicious processes
0
Suspicious processes
1

Behavior graph

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start rufus-4.8.exe vdsldr.exe no specs vds.exe no specs slui.exe default-browser-agent.exe no specs firefox.exe no specs firefox.exe no specs rufus-4.8.exe no specs

Process information

PID
CMD
Path
Indicators
Parent process
984C:\WINDOWS\System32\vds.exeC:\Windows\System32\vds.exeservices.exe
User:
SYSTEM
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
SYSTEM
Description:
Virtual Disk Service
Exit code:
0
Version:
10.0.19041.1 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Modules
Images
c:\windows\system32\vds.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\user32.dll
c:\windows\system32\win32u.dll
c:\windows\system32\gdi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\gdi32full.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
2044"C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\rufus-4.8.exe" C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\rufus-4.8.exeexplorer.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Akeo Consulting
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Rufus
Exit code:
3221226540
Version:
4.8.2253
Modules
Images
c:\users\admin\appdata\local\temp\rufus-4.8.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
2764"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\default-browser-agent.exe" do-task "308046B0AF4A39CB"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\default-browser-agent.exesvchost.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Mozilla Foundation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Exit code:
0
Version:
136.0
Modules
Images
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\default-browser-agent.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
c:\windows\system32\ole32.dll
2864"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" --backgroundtask defaultagent do-task 308046B0AF4A39CBC:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exefirefox.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Mozilla Corporation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Firefox
Exit code:
0
Version:
136.0
Modules
Images
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\firefox.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\mozglue.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
c:\windows\system32\crypt32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp140.dll
c:\windows\system32\vcruntime140.dll
3388"C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\rufus-4.8.exe" C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\rufus-4.8.exe
explorer.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Akeo Consulting
Integrity Level:
HIGH
Description:
Rufus
Exit code:
0
Version:
4.8.2253
Modules
Images
c:\users\admin\appdata\local\temp\rufus-4.8.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\apphelp.dll
c:\windows\system32\user32.dll
c:\windows\system32\win32u.dll
c:\windows\system32\gdi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\gdi32full.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp_win.dll
4580C:\WINDOWS\System32\slui.exe -EmbeddingC:\Windows\System32\slui.exe
svchost.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Windows Activation Client
Exit code:
0
Version:
10.0.19041.1 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Modules
Images
c:\windows\system32\slui.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
c:\windows\system32\user32.dll
5496C:\WINDOWS\System32\vdsldr.exe -EmbeddingC:\Windows\System32\vdsldr.exesvchost.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Microsoft Corporation
Integrity Level:
HIGH
Description:
Virtual Disk Service Loader
Exit code:
0
Version:
10.0.19041.3636 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Modules
Images
c:\windows\system32\vdsldr.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\apphelp.dll
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\sechost.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
6160"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" --backgroundtask defaultagent do-task 308046B0AF4A39CBC:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exedefault-browser-agent.exe
User:
admin
Company:
Mozilla Corporation
Integrity Level:
MEDIUM
Description:
Firefox
Exit code:
0
Version:
136.0
Modules
Images
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\firefox.exe
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernelbase.dll
c:\windows\system32\ucrtbase.dll
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\mozglue.dll
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\msvcp140.dll
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\vcruntime140.dll
c:\program files\mozilla firefox\vcruntime140_1.dll
c:\windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
Total events
10 050
Read events
9 559
Write events
407
Delete events
84

Modification events

(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\AppHVSI
Operation:writeName:AllowAppHVSI_ProviderSet
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate
Operation:writeName:UpdateDefault
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Network Connections
Operation:writeName:NC_DoNotShowLocalOnlyIcon
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Feeds
Operation:writeName:EnableFeeds
Value:
0
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
Operation:writeName:WUServer
Value:
http://neverupdatewindows10.com
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
Operation:writeName:WUStatusServer
Value:
http://neverupdatewindows10.com
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
Operation:writeName:UpdateServiceUrlAlternate
Value:
http://neverupdatewindows10.com
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
Operation:writeName:**del.FillEmptyContentUrls
Value:
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU
Operation:writeName:UseWUServer
Value:
1
(PID) Process:(3388) rufus-4.8.exeKey:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{497D50B5-6B03-4772-9F4E-D0AB6C2E0052}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU
Operation:writeName:NoAutoUpdate
Value:
0
Executable files
3
Suspicious files
83
Text files
6
Unknown types
29

Dropped files

PID
Process
Filename
Type
2864firefox.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Background Tasks Profiles\93u99co2.MozillaBackgroundTask-308046B0AF4A39CB-defaultagent\prefs-1.jstext
MD5:262A4081DD1F2DC19768C1DD5D0C082B
SHA256:AAD0AA4E748CF5FC5CB7B6B69D5A0E6E3F5BF69447469DDD6759292DC6D3A5C3
3388rufus-4.8.exeC:\Windows\System32\GroupPolicy\gpt.initext
MD5:3D89F23265C9E30A0CF055C3EB4D637C
SHA256:806582F6221C79BD4C7EACDC4B63E937CE247EEE2BA159F55C545CDFB2B1C25B
3388rufus-4.8.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\Ruf5F56.tmptext
MD5:E4AAF25313710D508B4AF46118E4B7D3
SHA256:DB1D2C7C742887940C2E309164848118CFD56B45DC42DD173B25CE960F72E238
2864firefox.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Background Tasks Profiles\93u99co2.MozillaBackgroundTask-308046B0AF4A39CB-defaultagent\datareporting\glean\db\data.safe.tmpbinary
MD5:0CC8D264FD1DB732E59AD15F897EB626
SHA256:1F7E3AA6AC66450BD467F889806CC634683E5CB032E8440B8C56484FB4E7464C
2864firefox.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Background Tasks Profiles\93u99co2.MozillaBackgroundTask-308046B0AF4A39CB-defaultagent\datareporting\glean\db\data.safe.binbinary
MD5:0CC8D264FD1DB732E59AD15F897EB626
SHA256:1F7E3AA6AC66450BD467F889806CC634683E5CB032E8440B8C56484FB4E7464C
3388rufus-4.8.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache\MetaData\B2FAF7692FD9FFBD64EDE317E42334BA_89854CA6A0F0936A4D2ECA78845CEA25binary
MD5:AB85CCD0F28B78E9CDEACF5069C98266
SHA256:42B34875C3B79EC90C8025FF44C1A9DA07D47D92A6C88144D870DA32055F9D9F
3388rufus-4.8.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache\Content\B2FAF7692FD9FFBD64EDE317E42334BA_89854CA6A0F0936A4D2ECA78845CEA25binary
MD5:33C579E0DBBE7AA9BBE30465BD8317AF
SHA256:94BF467F3EA06555B042E7DD4788C541E6CBA862678D39DC10D58503FBB5A0ED
2864firefox.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Background Tasks Profiles\93u99co2.MozillaBackgroundTask-308046B0AF4A39CB-defaultagent\prefs.jstext
MD5:262A4081DD1F2DC19768C1DD5D0C082B
SHA256:AAD0AA4E748CF5FC5CB7B6B69D5A0E6E3F5BF69447469DDD6759292DC6D3A5C3
3388rufus-4.8.exeC:\Windows\System32\GroupPolicy\Machine\Registry.polbinary
MD5:0C014C71A70DC7758BFDC822E974F1F3
SHA256:8EBD915268E16B55A3ABDE6F612363576FAB5DF656F955D672CCE8889C5FF9CA
3388rufus-4.8.exeC:\Users\admin\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache\MetaData\C8CFF94A6502E24DC82E1FBEB7044EEAbinary
MD5:5F9E9760C06D602012AA5F0184E2A049
SHA256:32590D8A72A9A2C8163B667E5A6F3E8EE70476A4688BD0D0EC8B9D86EAECBC82
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HTTP(S) requests
9
TCP/UDP connections
32
DNS requests
22
Threats
0

HTTP requests

PID
Process
Method
HTTP Code
IP
URL
CN
Type
Size
Reputation
1268
svchost.exe
GET
200
23.216.77.6:80
http://crl.microsoft.com/pki/crl/products/MicRooCerAut2011_2011_03_22.crl
unknown
whitelisted
1268
svchost.exe
GET
200
184.30.21.171:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/MicSecSerCA2011_2011-10-18.crl
unknown
whitelisted
6700
SIHClient.exe
GET
200
2.23.246.101:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/Microsoft%20ECC%20Product%20Root%20Certificate%20Authority%202018.crl
unknown
whitelisted
6700
SIHClient.exe
GET
200
2.23.246.101:80
http://www.microsoft.com/pkiops/crl/Microsoft%20ECC%20Update%20Secure%20Server%20CA%202.1.crl
unknown
whitelisted
6900
svchost.exe
GET
200
2.23.77.188:80
http://ocsp.digicert.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBSAUQYBMq2awn1Rh6Doh%2FsBYgFV7gQUA95QNVbRTLtm8KPiGxvDl7I90VUCEAJ0LqoXyo4hxxe7H%2Fz9DKA%3D
unknown
whitelisted
3388
rufus-4.8.exe
GET
200
104.18.38.233:80
http://ocsp.sectigo.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBTPlNxcMEqnlIVyH5VuZ4lawhZX3QQU9oUKOxGG4QR9DqoLLNLuzGR7e64CECoW9cIBGAf3CpJj3Tw5qfI%3D
unknown
whitelisted
3388
rufus-4.8.exe
GET
200
172.64.149.23:80
http://ocsp.usertrust.com/MFIwUDBOMEwwSjAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBSr83eyJy3njhjVpn5bEpfc6MXawQQUOuEJhtTPGcKWdnRJdtzgNcZjY5oCEQDzZE5rbgBQI34JRr174fUd
unknown
whitelisted
2940
svchost.exe
GET
200
23.209.209.135:80
http://x1.c.lencr.org/
unknown
whitelisted
3388
rufus-4.8.exe
GET
200
172.64.149.23:80
http://ocsp.comodoca.com/MFEwTzBNMEswSTAJBgUrDgMCGgUABBRTtU9uFqgVGHhJwXZyWCNXmVR5ngQUoBEKIz6W8Qfs4q8p74Klf9AwpLQCEFZnHQTqT5lMbxCBR1nSdZQ%3D
unknown
whitelisted
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Connections

PID
Process
IP
Domain
ASN
CN
Reputation
4
System
192.168.100.255:137
whitelisted
5944
MoUsoCoreWorker.exe
20.73.194.208:443
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
NL
whitelisted
1268
svchost.exe
20.73.194.208:443
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
NL
whitelisted
6876
RUXIMICS.exe
20.73.194.208:443
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
NL
whitelisted
4
System
192.168.100.255:138
whitelisted
2200
svchost.exe
224.0.0.251:5353
unknown
2200
svchost.exe
224.0.0.252:5355
whitelisted
1268
svchost.exe
23.216.77.6:80
crl.microsoft.com
Akamai International B.V.
DE
whitelisted
1268
svchost.exe
184.30.21.171:80
www.microsoft.com
AKAMAI-AS
DE
whitelisted
5944
MoUsoCoreWorker.exe
40.127.240.158:443
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
IE
whitelisted

DNS requests

Domain
IP
Reputation
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
  • 20.73.194.208
  • 40.127.240.158
whitelisted
google.com
  • 142.250.185.142
whitelisted
crl.microsoft.com
  • 23.216.77.6
  • 23.216.77.28
whitelisted
www.microsoft.com
  • 184.30.21.171
  • 2.23.246.101
whitelisted
slscr.update.microsoft.com
  • 20.109.210.53
whitelisted
fe3cr.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
  • 40.69.42.241
whitelisted
login.live.com
  • 20.190.160.2
  • 20.190.160.5
  • 40.126.32.140
  • 20.190.160.65
  • 20.190.160.17
  • 20.190.160.130
  • 40.126.32.138
  • 40.126.32.74
whitelisted
ocsp.digicert.com
  • 2.23.77.188
whitelisted
client.wns.windows.com
  • 172.211.123.248
whitelisted
activation-v2.sls.microsoft.com
  • 20.83.72.98
whitelisted

Threats

No threats detected
Process
Message
rufus-4.8.exe
*** Rufus init ***
rufus-4.8.exe
Cur dir: 'C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\'
rufus-4.8.exe
App dir: 'C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\'
rufus-4.8.exe
Sys dir: 'C:\WINDOWS\system32'
rufus-4.8.exe
Usr dir: 'C:\Users\admin'
rufus-4.8.exe
Dat dir: 'C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local'
rufus-4.8.exe
Tmp dir: 'C:\Users\admin\AppData\Local\Temp\'
rufus-4.8.exe
Binary executable is signed by 'Akeo Consulting'
rufus-4.8.exe
Will use settings from registry
rufus-4.8.exe
loc file not found in current directory - embedded one will be used